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england v scotland - what would happen?

"This is also the reason why Scottish Swimming is really on the up just now including the fact their men's team could probably beat the English men's team at present".

OK, so it probably was a flippant comment on the swimclub forums, but it got us thinking. Well we decided to find out, after all the general standard of Scottish swimming has undoubtedly improved over the past few years, but how would they fare against the Auld Enemy?

The format:

A dual meet, across a full FINA world championship programme, using currently available rankings (to June 2001) from the ASA and SwimScotland web sites to determine the results of each event. Relay times were calculated from the top 4 swimmer's times, with an allowance of 1.5s for takeovers, in line with ASA selectiuon criteria. 10 points for a win and 5 points for second. Results for the races are shown below.

The result:

England: 180 points

Scotland: 120 points

Commentary:

The scoring system may make the result seem closer than it really is, with England winning 16 of the 20 events, but there would undoubtedly have been some extremely close racing in many of the events. What is noticeable, however, is the reliance of both teams, but particularly Scotland, on a small number of swimmers to cover a large number of events. Evidently in reality it would be foolhardy to expect Graeme Smith, for example, to swim quite so many events at his best, but this would probably have had little effect on the final outcome. One should also remember that this is a purely academic exercise and you can never discount swimmers producing personal bests to upset the form book. After all its only a bit of fun, the real test will come in Manchester next year!

The results
England Scotland
Name Time Event Name Time
Mark Foster 00:22.13 50m free David Leith 00:23.71 E
Matt Kidd 00:50.05 100 free David Leith 00:51.73 E
Paul Palmer 01:48.10 200 free Graeme Smith 01:51.73 E
Jamie Salter 03:50.47 400 free Graeme Smith 03:52.15 E
Adam Faulkner 08:01.15 800 free Graeme Smith 07:57.93 S
Adam Faulkner 15:29.49 1500 free Graeme Smith 15:03.15 S
Neil Willey 00:25.90 50 back Gregor Tait 00:26.25 E
Adam Ruckwood 00:55.79 100 back Gregor Tait 00:55.91 E
Simon Militis 02:02.73 200 back Gregor Tait 02:00.18 S
James Gibson 00:27.71 50 breast Ian Edmond 00:29.31 E
Darren Mew 01:01.47 100 breast Ian Edmond 01:02.69 E
Adam Whitehead 02:15.99 200 breast Ian Edmond 02:12.70 S
Mark Foster 00:23.62 50 fly Cameron Black 00:25.30 E
James Hickman 00:53.53 100 fly Todd Cooper 00:55.87 E
James Hickman 01:57.68 200 fly Todd Cooper 02:03.96 E
James Goddard 02:02.63 200 IM Michael Cole 02:04.96 E
James Goddard 04:19.30 400 IM Michael Cole 04:31.76 E
England (Kidd, Palmer, Belk Scotcher) 03:20.70 4x100 free Scotland (Leith,Hall,Carry, Edmond) 03:30.30 E
England (Ruckwood, Mew, Hickman, Kidd) 03:39.34 4x100 med Scotland (Tait,Edmond,Cooper, Leith) 03:43.20 E
England (Palmer, Belk, Sinclair, Salter) 07:16.50 4x200 free Scotland (Leith, Smith, Hay, Jameson) 07:29.31 E

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