The “20 at 20” series has focussed inevitably on moments of magic, those of success, the highlights of the last two decades and the medals won. But there is always a counterpoint; the near misses that perhaps fade more from the wider memory but remain vivid for those involved.

In this podcast James Goddard discusses the drama surrounding his 4th placed finish in the 200m backstroke at the Athens Olympics, the fallout from that and the impacts on his mental health, and the importance of having great team mates to train with. There’s also a chance to glean some advice on the eventual return to the water when the Coronavirus lockdown is raised.